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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
ATTRIBUTION: Attributed to SOCRATES by Plato, according to William L.
Patty and Louise S. Johnson, Personality and Adjustment, p. 277
(1953)."
Sheesh - the internet being the latest thing for parents to get themselves in a tizzy about if their kids decide to put their hands in their pants, or someone elses. Once it was rock'n'roll music, then drive-ins, then MTV, then video games, now the dreaded internet! Maybe back in Plato and Socrates time it was something else, like the introduction of dancing girls at the gladiator games, or carvings of naked women on display in public places.
For all the shite about kids being sexualised younger, the age that people marry and have kids is getting much later these days. My parents were 24 when I was born, typical of their generation. I know very few 24 year olds with kids these days.
Personally what I think you should be worrying about is the commercialisation of kids lives. There's so much pressure on them via advertising to have the latest camera phone, label designer jeans, four euro ringtone, etc - personally I'd rather encourage them to get down to having (safe) sex at an earlier age under my own roof, at least its free and orgasms dont fall into the realm of advertising (yet), they arent out drinking and stamping on peoples heads outside a disco, and they'll learn respect for the opposite gender much earlier in life.
i guess that its important to examine what 'innocence' is supposed to mean in this context and what purpose it serves..
this idea of sexuality being something which children should be protected from is tied to a patriarchal religious understanding of what sexuality is. Innocence in this context is correlated to purity, pointing to an understanding of sex as corrupting. The only way in which sexual urges can be resolved is through divinely ordained marriage, and god-fearing, missionary position, no-tongues-when-kissing, purely-for-procreation sex.
Also, this idea of innocence places the child in a position of ignorance and weakness, so that when they do encounter harmful sexual conduct, they are frequently not capable of understanding it, resisting unwelcome approaches and understanding that sexual abuse is wrong. With a taboo on sexuality in general, it becomes impossible for abusive sexuality to be tackled. This can clearly be seen in the way in which the Church refused to deal with sexual abuse. By focusing on protecting children from exposure to sexuality, you disempower them and prevent them from reaching a healthy undertanding of who they are. If you are worried about children being harmed through the portrayal of sexuality in porn, then you must suggest a better way of educating children about their bodies.
If much contemporary pornography is grotesque, then it is simply a symptom of repression in general. But in a time where power so frequently manifsts itself through sexual assault, to attack pornography in the name of protecting the children is pure hypocrisy.
I dont think there's anything wrong or hypocrtical with attacking porn on the issue of it being problematic for children. Your pal Dworkin surely would have had some thoughts on the issue. I dont think its that healthy for young children to be exposed to "hot young teen asian xxx cyber sluts" for various reasons which are obvious and I cant be bothered going in to.
So you might not want to cite the ancient Greeks as role models for pedagogy.
An important point made by Kathy has been overlooked, namely the "potential for contact with cults, cyber bullying, cyber blackmail and aggressive marketing".
For computer-illiterate parents, these can be very worrying. A child threatened online by some weirdo in a computer game may be unable to pass on his or her fear to anyone.
Cyber bullying is real also. Children may be more advanced nowadays but they all need help and protection, just as vulnerable adults do. Cyber blackmail is a frightening concept and aggressive marketing is more insidious when addressed to centless children than when addressed to their parents.
What Ms Sinnott did you do behind closed door when you were a 'child'.
Concocting an article out of research data which is probably being nefariously
used for some mode of internet control is worrying.
There is
1. a difference between a teenager and a child.
2. An issue of privacy.
3. The joy of a teenager kicking and tumbling ? - what on earth is this article
trying to get to-
As soon as they hit puberty, they no longer 'kick and tumble', they are aggressive, sweet, caring
and obnoxious, (the old sex hormones kicking in)
'Creating a protective atmosphere' is something that no-one wants, especially when
the mores of the parents are repressive and not savvy.
To remedy Cyber -bullying or porn issues.
1. Communication:- maintaining an open relationship.
this does not mean imposing your morality on an individual.
2. Giving them the tools to know what is acceptable in terms of personal safety and space issues.
(this should be done from the time they were born and in the schools, kids actually
know the difference between right and wrong)
as to masturbation/sex/porn :- please , a little titillation (WE ALL DID/DO IT).
The problem with some modes of p[arenting is that the urge to 'protect'is actually
a shame issue , where the whole area of sexuality is not talked about because
of repression , thus mystifying it and transmitting ideas that there is something
wrong with it.
Don't Censor Your Kids.